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Poster: Jeff Gannon Date: Dec 1, 2008 1:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: From the Heart of Me

Great melody and I really enjoy Jerry's cascading runs at the end.

But man, the lyrics give me the serious douche chills. One of their many tunes which didn't age well at all. I wonder if the boys were ever embarrased playing certain tunes.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Dec 1, 2008 2:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

This is not a "Phil bash" but those tunes he wrote for the band in the latter years are tough musically and lyrically. "If the show fits", "Childhood end". Brutal stuff.

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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Dec 1, 2008 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

I have to confess to liking to Childhood's End. I typically enjoy Phil's vocals (especially Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues) and something about it I found enjoyable. However, I have only ever heard one version (the one from the last show ever).

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Dec 1, 2008 4:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

I actually think TTB is my fav Phil tune(although it's not his)I always like hearing it live

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Poster: He Live's Date: Jan 1, 2009 10:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

on early version of T JED and RAMBLE ON ROSE phil provided some amazing high harmonies.... but a lead singer he was NOT. i like tom thumb's too but this is not really an example of a time when he could Sing.

cheers and happy new year!


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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 1, 2008 1:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

Unfortunately, Mason's Children might be one such song. They had to know how horrendous the vocals were sounding. Its also possible that the lyrics pissed someone off?

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Dec 1, 2008 9:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

This has the best sounding vocals of any Mason's, IMHO:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-workingmans-outtakes.sbd.7319.sbeok.shnf

They are ALMOST there...and I like the slower, more chugging groove too. This board has two different mixes of the same version.

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Poster: Jeff Gannon Date: Dec 1, 2008 2:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

Mason's Children is great, imo...I love how their vocals sounded on that one (usually)

never really given the lyrics a close listen, but I enjoyed their dark/weird vibe

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 1, 2008 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

Of course I dig Mason's!

I just think the vocals sound like nails on a chalkboard...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-12-28.sbd.cotsman.8999.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: Jeff Gannon Date: Dec 1, 2008 2:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

Phil on high harmony...yeah, I see why that didn't last long...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 1, 2008 3:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

Now if you listen carefully in Amer Beaut and WorkMans, you can appreciate that the three of them can blend beautifully, and yes, Phil knows harmonies...but you knew that. Live, it was another story altogether.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Mouth of Phil

WT,

Phil seemed to have briefly figured out those harmonies live for this one night in 1970. Maybe because it was around the time of the recording of American Beauty.

I am sure I don't need to tell you to check out the China>Rider on this one.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-10-04.sbd.cotsman.4942.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Mouth of Phil

Hey L--that was the infamous night of Mammary Productions we all went round with here a month or so ago (LiAshes, etc) as it is AN excellent show, with some off vocals (attics or is it tilmorning?) BUT some stellar ones, including one of my fav UJBand, which is the featured "live" tune on the remastered WorkMan release in Golden Road. Was so happy to find that little gem...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Mouth of Phil

Yeah I love that show. I did a review of it on 10-04-2007 then recycled my review this year since I really had nothing to add. I actually like the Till the Morning Comes though. The song didn't belong on AB imo, just didn't fit with the vibe of the rest of the album. I thought they sounded like they were having fun with it here though.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Mouth of Phil

Oh, and yes, to follow your lead, I think that the studio efforts of the boys were often very positively reflected in the live shows on the flip side, post recording. At least I am always speculating there was a relationship. Makes sense. Phil could clearly get it right when they were in the studio, and he and Bob and Jerry could almost approach the CSNY style on those tunes in Work/Beauty, IMHO. So, playing night in and night out, smoking, etc., only makes sense they would be off many a night since it wasn't necessarily their primary focus (again, IMHO).

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Poster: He Live's Date: Jan 1, 2009 10:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

mason's was not a very good song.

they played it during a peak period 69-70 so they were able to put a good jam into it -- but as a "song" not so good....


(why am i replying now?.... i was just checking out jeff gannon -- weird dude -- like many i guess....)


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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 2, 2009 6:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

Not a good song?

Why, because the vocals were so bad?

It certainly wasnt good enough to be included on Workingman's.

But I think it was a great song! The two instrumental breaks on both 12/28 and 12/29 are proof enough for me!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 1, 2008 1:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

i would hope that Samba would have caused a bit of blush in the cheeks.

ick

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Poster: Jeff Gannon Date: Dec 1, 2008 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me

yeah it must have been hard for them to sign that chorus of "lets get down and dirty baby"

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Poster: cringle Date: Dec 2, 2008 12:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: From the Heart of Me


What a perfect storm of brutalness live: difficult to play, hard to follow rhythm, donna singing a difficult lead vocal.

Perhaps you would also like another gem cut from the same stone: "France"?

Might it interest you to know that you can actually purchase RINGTONES of both?

That would be far out - to hear somebody's phone go off with one of those two ringtones.

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